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By: Tom

Tom — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:42:09 +0000

Hey JW, nog eens goed gelezen en je hebt compleet gelijk. Het blijft een lastige discussie met IVF. Mag je dan gehandicapte embryo’s eruit selecteren. Lijkt mij wel, maar waar ligt de grens.

Bij deze ouders komt het over dat een horende embryo beter is dan een dove embryo en zij voelen zich gediscrimineerd.

By: Hij

Hij — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:20:14 +0000

Even terug naar het begin…

Ik vraag me af of jullie het artikel wel goed hebben gelezen, dan wel begrepen. Deze mensen willen de KANS krijgen op een doof kind. Het gaat hier niet om het genetisch manipuleren van de embryo zodat deze doof wordt, maar zodat het kind juist niet wordt.

De nieuwe Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill stelt dat de embryos met ’slechte’ genen (die bv doofheid veroorzaken) worden geëlimineerd en dat enkel de ‘goede’ genen worden gebruikt. Hier bekruipt mij een jaren ‘40 – ‘45 gevoel…

Garfield & Lichy moeten door hun leeftijd een IVF behandeling ondergaan en door deze nieuwe benadering zien zij hun kans op een doof kind verdwijnen. Zij geven in het artikel aan dat zij ook gelukkig zouden zijn met een horend kind, maar dat ze een voorkeur hebben. Een voorkeur die wellicht afwijkt van de standaard. Garfield & Lichy vragen niet dat hun embryo MOEDWILLIG doof wordt gemaakt, maar dat de zgn. ’slechte’ genen niet uit de pool worden verwijderd.

Alle statements die door jullie zijn gedaan over accepteren zoals het kind is, de natuur zijn beloop laten, kinderen krijg je zoals ze zijn etc., zijn van toepassing, maar ter bevestiging van het standpunt van deze mensen!!

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:47:46 +0000

Ik vind niet dat je met dit soort dingen moet klooien. Kinderen neem je niet, kinderen krijg je, zoals ze zijn.

Ik snap je punten wel enigszins JW, ik zie liever iemand met een mening, ook al strookt die niet (geheel) met de mijne, dan iemand zonder mening.

By: Jaronski

Jaronski — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:05:13 +0000

Ik kan de wens van de betreffende ouders enigszins wel begrijpen maar dat wil niet zeggen dat ik het goedkeur. Deze praktijken moeten gewoon verboden worden omdat je anders binnen de kortste keren de raarste ‘verzoekjes’ krijgt. Dat is wat Tom al zei; een hazenlip, blind of zonder armen? Waar trek je de grens?

By: Hij

Hij — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:30:02 +0000

“… wat zouden zij doen???”

Ga het ze vragen. Onderneem je tenminste nog enige moeite om je hierin te verdiepen, voordat je het keihard wil verbieden.

By: Jaronski

Jaronski — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:01:10 +0000

Ik zou wel eens willen weten wat deze ouders zouden doen wanneer zij de kans krijgen om weer te kunnen horen (bijv. door nieuwe medische ontwikkelingen).

wat zouden zij doen???

Ik ga met Tom mee, echt waar, te belachelijk voor woorden. Dit moet keihard verboden worden!